tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post2392167375278958136..comments2024-01-13T19:31:57.599-08:00Comments on Cave Mother: Breastfeeding and Natural Child SpacingCave Motherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08489375502067939290noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-28482481081447671432019-07-15T20:07:12.320-07:002019-07-15T20:07:12.320-07:00 I completely understand how it feels to be dismis... I completely understand how it feels to be dismissed at church by people who are “trying their best”... <br /><br />I just renewed my temple recommend and I don’t know what I was expecting but I wanted to express that my testimony is waiting because of all of this crap... every time I brought up a way I was struggling I was dismissed with a “you’re fine, you’re doing fine...” but no substance behind the “it’s fine”... I walked out with the recommend but right now that piece of paper makes me feel like a phony. My testimony isn’t where it was 10, 5, or even 3 years ago... I feel it slipping away from me. Part of me doesn’t even care, part of me feels guilty for not progressing and part of me is devastated that something that used to be such an integral part of my life feels like just a side note now but i am grateful for my colleague who directed me to the herbalist doctor Dr.Osagie Momohsanni who has helped me out with his strong herbal medicines today i am a proud mother after many tries in 8 years. i was beginning to get diver-stated when it all came to me like a miracle all thanks to Dr.Osagie with his help towards my life, may God continues to bless the work of your hand and i will recommend this great herbalist to those out there who find them self not being able to get pregnant.Always remember that God listens to our prayer even if it does not happen spiritually but he sends people to help us in life. you can get to this doctor through phone call on +2349038036558 or email on DROSAGIE99@gmail.com .Yullian boatenghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04054708736560814739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-46459059469825776732018-08-14T02:01:36.240-07:002018-08-14T02:01:36.240-07:00I want to say a very big thanks to Dr.Ogbes for he...I want to say a very big thanks to Dr.Ogbes for helping me with his Roots and Herbs,after 15years of marriage with no child but thank God today with the help of Dr.Ogbes roots and herbs i got pregnant with the period of 3weeks after the roots and herbs treatment and i pray God give him more power to help other stander out there trying to get pregnant.for help you can reach him via: Landofanswer@hotmail.com or call +2347050270227.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-19920635083991102672016-06-15T01:56:44.639-07:002016-06-15T01:56:44.639-07:00I realize this is an old post but I can't help...I realize this is an old post but I can't help but comment. I bought the book your speaking of when my first child was about 1 and wondering why I still hadn't gotten my period. I was practicing all 7 points without knowing anything about it, just from what came natural to me as a mother. With my first child, my period returned after 3 months shy of her turning 2 when I weaned her. But I seem to get more relaxed about weaning with each one and have noticed that with each child it has taken longer and longer to have my periods return. I am currently nursing my fourth child who turned 2 in march. I still haven't gotten my period back and was searching the Web to see if anyone else could relate to such an extended break from their mensus. I realized with my others I eventually started working on taking away the morning nursing, then the nap time one, etc but with my current child I have not done any of that yet and am guessing that's why I still haven't had a period. So I am curious to see how long this will continue. With my other children I always got to a point where I really wanted another baby and that's what drove me to start weaning in earnest. I guess this time around I am not so anxious. I would gladly welcome another baby, but don't feel desperate for one either. I know a lot of mom's who say this method doesn't work, and I know moms who say it does, but I personally know of only 1 other mom who has had a longer stretch than ke, hers didn't return until her last child was 3 years old! It's kind of interesting how different people's bodies react to different things!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-821559948886696312016-03-09T20:26:46.172-08:002016-03-09T20:26:46.172-08:00Well, it doesn't always work. I followed all 7...Well, it doesn't always work. I followed all 7 principles and had my first PP period at 6 weeks. I didn't believe it at first and went back to tracking my ovulation. Even my midwife was puzzled. I started ovulating like clockwork - every 17th cycle day just as before pregnancy. I still nurse my 13 month old on demand never going more than a couple hours day and night. I've tried to find information on WHY some women do not see any delay in fertility, but have been unsuccessful. Jennifer Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01447807299449400529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-63175276496128723782013-04-24T10:04:38.528-07:002013-04-24T10:04:38.528-07:00i fell upon her 4th book at the thrift store the o...i fell upon her 4th book at the thrift store the other day for 50 cents. its one of the best books i have ever read! I too had no periods for a year after both boys were born, and never really understood why. our family practices the 7 traits ( not knowing that what we were doing was anything special, it was just what felt right for us). I am glad to have read this book, and it makes me feel good that what we are doing has even more benefits to back up how we are doing things. ps, i just bought my first subscription to breastfeeding today. thanks for sharing this blogging about this! -m The Waitshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00269308311920314326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-76582832781506185222012-07-26T12:51:22.940-07:002012-07-26T12:51:22.940-07:00I have 12 months between daughter number one and 2...I have 12 months between daughter number one and 2(fell pregnant when daughter 1 was 12wks, and 16 months between daughter 2 and 3. I didn't breastfeed daughter 1 and 2 but did 3. No periods have returned and i think it's my body saying it's had enough of being preganantfor nearly 3 years. If i'm honest i know for fact i would be pregnant if i had bottle fed. She is hooked on breast and wont go near a bottle or cup which i think is her saying i want to be the youngest for a whileimyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00650236539178673300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-2443643057915906042011-12-24T17:13:52.353-08:002011-12-24T17:13:52.353-08:00I just found this thread! I accidentally practiced...I just found this thread! I accidentally practiced "ecological nursing" and went without a period until my son was 27 months old. I'm trying to chart this cycle ( the first one I'be known about post partum) and I'm on day 47 with no ovulation. We're trying hot #2, but something tells me this will be a long road. I keep picking up the book to remind myself that I'm doing the right thing! It's so hard sometimes!Shawnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08656166197748243958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-18715813604183363042011-01-25T21:41:52.827-08:002011-01-25T21:41:52.827-08:00My twin boys are 21 months old. They nurse about e...My twin boys are 21 months old. They nurse about every 3 hours and a few times at night. I am starting to spot occasionally and was wondering if this is the start of my period? Am I fertile again? The spotting is very light and sporadic. Defintely not what my periods were before I got pregnant!! Is this just a sign that it's coming soon?Factomumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13860632026118379257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-34805507084024247502010-07-26T05:07:33.964-07:002010-07-26T05:07:33.964-07:00My baby is 21 months and I still have not had a pe...My baby is 21 months and I still have not had a period. I love it! She sounds much like your own child in her nursing demands. I, too, follow those 7 rules, though not because I knew they existed. I have a great and reassuring OBGYN who said he has seen the gamut when it comes to periods returning and that every woman is different. He's not at all concerned my periods are not back. Interestingly, my mom did not get her period until she stopped breastfeeding me and my sister completely, both around 18 months. She slept with us, too, but I'm not sure if she breastfed on demand.<br /><br />I would not call this infertility, though. Infertility means you can't have a child. You clearly can because you did. Your body and your baby are just not ready for another, yet.Thaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15632246325868000701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-27766025345325739972010-04-13T10:52:12.831-07:002010-04-13T10:52:12.831-07:00i am a mum with a 5mths old aby, i breast feed my ...i am a mum with a 5mths old aby, i breast feed my gal for a period of 2mths, cos i was about to travel and i had to make love to my husband, but d next month i noticed my period and after that the next following mths that is d 4mths nd 5mth i still had not seen my period, just womndering if i had become pregant, cos after the intercourse i had to take ampicillin dont know if that the cause of my early menstruation or that i am pregnanet againAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-55537810051820242702010-03-23T06:35:03.228-07:002010-03-23T06:35:03.228-07:00Thanks for all the comments - and one from Sheila ...Thanks for all the comments - and one from Sheila Kippley herself! Thanks so much for doing this Sheila. It means a lot to me.Cave Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08489375502067939290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-15158212436615103012010-03-20T20:16:57.330-07:002010-03-20T20:16:57.330-07:00Breastfeeding and Natural Child Spacing is one of ...Breastfeeding and Natural Child Spacing is one of my very favorite parenting books right now. I feel so encouraged by it, so supported in my need and my son's need to be together. He is now 18 months and I do not have my cycles back yet either. We follow the 7 standards completely. I am quite content with a gradual return to fertility. Sebastien's needs as a toddler are quite intense right now and I am trusting that my body senses that.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10593665244052936436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-60746552328353917742010-03-19T11:37:24.126-07:002010-03-19T11:37:24.126-07:00another great post. I'm having fun reading yo...another great post. I'm having fun reading your blog. I am Catholic so I don't use contraception for religious reasons but so often I feel awkward or out of place for using natural child spacing as a 'birth control'. But I'm really happy because natural child spacing fits so well into my parenting views. Letting your baby and body decide when it's time seems like the way to go and the way it should be. Thanks for writting about this, I loved it. I'll have to check out the book.<br />-Cassie<br />ps I'd anyone wants to know about fertility monitoring, I've read wayyyyy to much about it :)Cassiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13955575057654804783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-89508865859859953452010-03-15T14:52:11.916-07:002010-03-15T14:52:11.916-07:00I breastfed my son whenever he wanted for as long ...I breastfed my son whenever he wanted for as long as he wanted and bed-shared for 6 months and my period still came in at 6 months. Hmm, I wonder if moving him out of my bed had anything to do with that... We used condoms once I started cycling again and didn't really worry too much about it. Hell, I made him wear condoms even BEFORE I'd started my period since I have almost no way of knowing whether or not I've ovulated prior to a first period :) <br /><br />And yes, I love it when I find a resource that tells me I'm NOT out of my mind. I feel the same way about blogs, too.Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10920104559343925583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-462358508850687922010-03-10T07:23:37.270-08:002010-03-10T07:23:37.270-08:00Thanks for promoting eco-breastfeeding. My book y...Thanks for promoting eco-breastfeeding. My book you recommended is the Classic Edition from 1974. The up-to-date version with new research and quotes is The Seven Standards of Ecological Breastfeeding: The Frequency Factor (2008). It is completely secular, shows that it does work, and is recommended by La Leche League. Sheila KippleySheila Kippleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18291309627600804603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-71580278296575557862010-03-10T02:15:37.716-08:002010-03-10T02:15:37.716-08:00I definitely hear you on this one. I am usually ve...I definitely hear you on this one. I am usually very confident about my non-conventional parenting choices however occasionally dark moments will hit when I need a reminder that there are others out there like me. That's when I turn to the Australian Breastfeeding Magazine, or similar blogs and the wonderful support network I have met through them. Interestingly, I am still breastfeeding my 18 month-old and am now 17 weeks pregnant. I got my period when he was 13 months old and fell pregnant when he was 15ish. It wasn't planned but wasn't unplanned if you know what I mean. The two will be exactly 2 years apart. I am reading up on tandem feeding and feeding during pregnancy and I feel it is really a great way to keep us all bonded and close. xo m.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00878259391140205192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-22689696466729738262010-03-07T23:38:41.803-08:002010-03-07T23:38:41.803-08:00Nice sharing...Nice sharing...cre8tonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03408120231638909386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-20761049395525862512010-03-06T09:45:21.873-08:002010-03-06T09:45:21.873-08:00Both of mine have/have had dummies. I think my dau...Both of mine have/have had dummies. I think my daughter has spent more time at the breast as by the time my son was 1, he only wanted a couple of feeds a day. My daughter on the other hand feeds lots during the day. <br />I was a bit concerned and went to the drs about the absence of my periods. She said it's not uncommon and wasn't too concerned.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10754562741952800845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-77341988164571673852010-03-05T08:15:07.475-08:002010-03-05T08:15:07.475-08:00clare - How interesting. Going 6-9 months after w...clare - How interesting. Going 6-9 months after weaning must have been a bit nerve wracking. I would have been worrying that there was something wrong with me! But then I'm a bit of a worrier I suppose. I wonder if your two children have different suckling requirements? Or did one have a dummy, and the other not?Cave Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08489375502067939290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-60235890340095745702010-03-04T14:51:31.288-08:002010-03-04T14:51:31.288-08:00This is really interesting. I breastfed my son for...This is really interesting. I breastfed my son for a year and it took a further 6-9 months for my periods to return. But I am still breastfeeding my daughter at 19 mths and my periods returned about 6 months ago! I'm not sure what's been different between the two other than the length of time spent breastfeeding.<br />I totally agree with you ref Gina Ford, whos books I bought when my son wouldn't do what I thought he should. Natural parenting has worked wonders with my daughter compared to the rigidness of routines.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10754562741952800845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-8130872558484358252010-03-04T06:03:52.511-08:002010-03-04T06:03:52.511-08:00Amber - yes that's a really good article. I r...Amber - yes that's a really good article. I read that, then followed some links to get to the LLL recommended reading, which is why I ended up getting the book.Cave Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08489375502067939290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-34166261668261272582010-03-04T06:03:37.886-08:002010-03-04T06:03:37.886-08:00Amber - yes that's a really good article. I r...Amber - yes that's a really good article. I read that, then followed some links to get to the LLL recommended reading, which is why I ended up getting the book.<br /><br />Hobo Mama - I know, it's cool that it was written back then. My mum always says "We didn't have books like that when you were a baby" but now I can show her this one and say "Yes you did".Cave Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08489375502067939290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-64875040215267193632010-03-03T21:22:15.765-08:002010-03-03T21:22:15.765-08:00I totally know what you mean. I will say that, as ...I totally know what you mean. I will say that, as my first child gets older, I have fewer doubts. Once you have at least one child who can talk and print her name and use the bathroom and sleep through the night the worries abate. With my second child, I face far fewer doubts.<br /><br />I guess I am average for someone who follows those principles - I went around 15 months before my period returned both times. I was expecting it to be longer with my 2nd as I'd heard that can happen, but no.<br /><br />Also, I have to say that I LOVE this article about breastfeeding and fertility. It talks about how to delay fertility, and also how to kick-start it if you want to, in terms that I find very non-judgemental. It's a quick read if you want the skinny on what is up with your breastfeeding body: http://www.llli.org/NB/NBSepOct06p196.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-39762315587310770332010-03-03T13:01:41.783-08:002010-03-03T13:01:41.783-08:00Wow. Was debating about this with my cousin today....Wow. Was debating about this with my cousin today. She asked me why I'd had the coil fitted if I truly believed bf was a contraception! Truth is, I've never used just one form of contraception, currently using three :-) I've tagged you over at my blog, I hope you'll play along, it's a pretty big issue.allgrownuphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15558724767417950811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7000103105398415784.post-78551310197162410562010-03-03T11:58:02.981-08:002010-03-03T11:58:02.981-08:00You know I'm one of those people who followed ...You know I'm one of those people who followed the principles but came in sooner than average for returning fertility (and very annoyed I was about it, too!).<br /><br />But I totally agree with you that it's a kick to read that other people have agreed with you even in the past — that attachment parenting isn't something that was made up whole cloth a decade ago or something. It was actually quite radical to write a breastfeeding book in the 1960s, wasn't it? I think breastfeeding was definitely on the outs popularity-wise at that point. Good for the author!Lauren Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07500733577920040395noreply@blogger.com